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"guest": "Jason Shah",
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"Product Management",
"Web3/Crypto",
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"Hiring",
"Career Development",
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"Team Building",
"Business Strategy"
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"summary": "Jason Shah, Product Leader at Alchemy, discusses his diverse career spanning Yammer, Microsoft, Amazon, Airbnb, and Web3. He shares insights on leading teams through crypto market cycles, the evolving need for PMs in Web3, effective leadership practices like attention to detail and adaptability, and the importance of reframing disagreements as shared goal-setting rather than pushback. Shah emphasizes the ladder-versus-map career framework, the working backwards PRFAQ process from Amazon, and how understanding core problems drives product success. He also covers hiring as marketing, sales, and product, and advocates for skill development in defining problems that matter.",
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"Working Backwards / PRFAQ (Press Release + FAQ)",
"Ladder vs Map (Career Strategy)",
"Trip Designer vs Concierge (Reframing Disagreement)",
"Leadership Triad: Humility, Craft, Adaptability",
"Hiring as Marketing, Sales, and Product",
"Problem-First Thinking",
"11-Star Experience (Airbnb)",
"Morale Through Progress"
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"title": "Web3 Current State and PM Evolution",
"summary": "Jason discusses Web3's strongest position despite crypto winter, the growth of products achieving product-market fit, and how the space is evolving to require more traditional product management as products mature and competition increases.",
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"title": "Maintaining Morale and Building Through Cycles",
"summary": "Jason emphasizes that progress and actual product shipped is the only way to maintain morale in volatile markets like crypto. He cites Alchemy's developer growth and product launches, and compares to Airbnb's revenue decline during COVID, showing how focus on customers and hiring right people keeps teams motivated.",
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"title": "Career Foundation: Companies That Shaped Approach",
"summary": "Jason reflects on how Amazon most influenced his product and business thinking despite only a year there, compared to his longer tenures at Yammer, Microsoft, Airbnb. He explains how Amazon's blend of product and business mindset, ownership culture, and focus on measurable outcomes shaped his leadership philosophy.",
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"summary": "Jason details Amazon's working backwards framework using PRFAQ (Press Release + Frequently Asked Questions), including the structure: introduction, problem, solution, customer quote, leadership quote, and call to action. He emphasizes writing discipline, avoiding vague words like 'great', and forcing clarity of thought through ruthless editing.",
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"title": "Effective Leadership Qualities and Practices",
"summary": "Jason identifies three key leadership qualities observed across Bezos, Brian Chesky, David Sachs, and others: nothing is above them, they're detail-oriented and in the weeds, and they adapt to new situations. He contrasts this with ego-driven leadership that avoids detailed work and emphasizes how this drives culture and accountability.",
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"title": "Reframing Pushback as Shared Goal-Setting",
"summary": "Jason explains how the word 'pushback' creates a negative mindset of disagreement rather than helping the business succeed. He shares the Luxury Retreats example where reframing the scope issue as 'trip designer' instead of 'concierge' aligned teams around shared goals of elegant customer experience, reducing scope while improving outcomes.",
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"title": "Communicating Strategy Through Shared Goals",
"summary": "Jason uses the Alchemy growth operations example to show how communicating change through founders' core value ('we want to win') rather than defending role creation generates alignment. He emphasizes the power of working backwards from what leaders care about rather than arguing micro-level details.",
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"title": "Ladder vs Map: Career Philosophy",
"summary": "Jason presents the ladder (moving up through title and influence) versus map (following interesting experiences) distinction, arguing that thinking about career like travel leads to richer, more interesting outcomes. He advocates for discomfort as growth and caring about living an interesting life over a comfortable one.",
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"id": "topic_9",
"title": "Career Examples: Dining Table Startup to Web3",
"summary": "Jason shares concrete examples of following the map: working from his dining table and pitching Ron Conway, door-to-door flyer distribution for education company, leaving Yammer after equity vested, founding do.com through stressful acqui-hire to Airbnb to Web3. Each decision prioritized interesting experiences over climbing a predetermined ladder.",
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"title": "Balancing Exploration with Tenure and Network Building",
"summary": "Jason discusses the need to balance map-following with meaningful tenure to build networks, institutional knowledge, and track record. He emphasizes that early career choices matter for credibility but that a 30-40 year career allows multiple 5-10 year explorations while staying committed to companies.",
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"title": "Hiring as Marketing, Sales, and Product",
"summary": "Jason reframes hiring using three lenses: marketing (brand and reputation), sales (understanding what motivates candidates and their pain points), and product (iterating job descriptions based on candidates met, not fixing them). He emphasizes matching roles to people rather than forcing people into pre-defined boxes.",
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"title": "Most Important PM Skill: Problem Definition",
"summary": "Jason identifies understanding and defining what problem matters as the most crucial PM skill, affecting everything from what gets built to team motivation. He illustrates with his education company's core problem (low-income students lack college resources), which then drove pricing, business model, and feature prioritization.",
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"title": "Introduction and Background",
"summary": "Lenny introduces Jason Shah and explains the context of re-recording the episode since Web3 landscape changed from April. Jason briefly covers his career from age 15 founding an education company through Yammer, Microsoft, Amazon, Airbnb, and now Alchemy, emphasizing the theme of solving important problems in unique ways.",
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"title": "Details and Ownership: Brian Chesky, Bezos, Steve Jobs",
"summary": "Jason and Lenny discuss how great leaders like Steve Jobs, Brian Chesky, and Jeff Bezos obsess over details—Jobs with iPhone prototypes, Chesky with every launch screen and office design, Bezos with customer emails. This obsession with craft and humility about what's below them creates competitive advantage and drives culture.",
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"title": "Responsibility and Accountability Culture",
"summary": "Jason contrasts top-down accountability (performance reviews) with responsibility-based culture where people feel ownership of the company, product, and environment. He cites examples of engineers fixing code at 3 AM at Alchemy and how this intrinsic ownership drives quality without formal authority.",
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"id": "topic_16",
"title": "Context and False Precision in Career Decisions",
"summary": "Jason cautions against false precision in career decisions made from 10 cumulative hours of conversation with a team, and how this false certainty sometimes prevents bolder moves. He argues that the best ladder might be hidden behind fog and that people often think career advancement is either/or rather than both interesting and successful.",
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"title": "Early Career: Formative Experiences and Network Building",
"summary": "Jason and Lenny discuss the importance of early career moves for credibility and network building. Jason cites his Yammer experience as foundational for learning A/B testing, getting angel investors, and hiring network. Both agree early career choices matter but that multiple chapters of a career allow strategic moves.",
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"title": "Favorite Interview Question: Risk and Growth Mindset",
"summary": "Jason shares his favorite interview question: 'What is a risk you regret not taking, why, and what did you learn about yourself?' He looks for growth mindset, vocal self-criticism without unproductive harshness, and insight into how candidates approach problem solving and take bets on business.",
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"text": "The word 'pushback' creates a negative mindset focused on disagreement rather than helping the business succeed. Reframing disagreement as shared goal-setting shifts people from 'how do I push back' to 'how do I help the business succeed.'",
"context": "Jason explains how language shapes leadership behavior and team mindsets",
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"text": "The only way to maintain morale during market cycles is to make progress and ship real products. No extrinsic motivators like free crypto compare to the excitement of seeing actual progress.",
"context": "Jason on maintaining morale during crypto winter at Alchemy",
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"text": "Web3 companies are maturing and discovering the value of PMs because product complexity grows with user adoption and market competition increases. Early success without traditional PM structure doesn't scale.",
"context": "Jason observing hiring trends at Uniswap, Gemini, OpenSea despite market downturns",
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"text": "Amazon's culture combines product obsession with business thinking—you cannot be a PM without understanding revenue, go-to-market, and ownership. This blend is more powerful than pure product culture.",
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"text": "Writing discipline forces clarity of thought. Avoiding vague words like 'great' and using numbers instead of adjectives means every word carries weight and trade-offs become intentional.",
"context": "Amazon's writing training with card of five tips about concision and specificity",
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"text": "Great leaders obsess over details not because they're above the work but from humility and craft excellence. This drives culture and accountability more than any formal process.",
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"text": "The best leaders embrace three qualities: nothing is above them (humility), they're in the details (craft), and they adapt to new situations. Leaders stuck on past playbooks fail when circumstances change.",
"context": "Jason's observation across Bezos, Chesky, Sachs, and current founders Joe and Nikil",
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"id": "insight_8",
"text": "To effectively push back on a CEO or founder, understand their core goal and align your proposal to it. Work backwards from what they're excited about, not from your preferred solution.",
"context": "Jason's approach to influencing leadership through shared goal identification",
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"id": "insight_9",
"text": "The 'ladder' career path (titles, power, influence) versus 'map' path (interesting experiences) framework shows that interesting life experiences often lead to better opportunities than climbing a predetermined ladder.",
"context": "Jason's personal career choices emphasizing exploration over rank",
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"id": "insight_10",
"text": "A 30-40 year career allows multiple 5-10 year explorations while building network and institutional knowledge. You can be both a builder of long-term impact and an explorer of new frontiers.",
"context": "Jason balancing his commitment to Web3 and Alchemy long-term with his map philosophy",
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"text": "False precision in career decisions (made from 10 cumulative hours of conversation) prevents bolder moves. The best ladder is often hidden behind fog, and people underestimate their ability to find both interest and success.",
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"text": "Hire with three lenses: marketing (brand and reputation), sales (understand what motivates them), and product (iterate job descriptions based on real candidates, don't force people into pre-defined roles).",
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"text": "Understanding what problem you're actually trying to solve is the most important PM skill. It drives what gets built, team motivation, business model, and feature prioritization.",
"context": "Jason's education company example where the core problem shaped everything",
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"id": "insight_14",
"text": "Developing responsibility-based culture (people feeling ownership of the company) is more powerful than accountability-based culture (performance reviews). This intrinsic ownership drives quality without formal authority.",
"context": "Jason's observation of engineers fixing code at 3 AM without being told at Alchemy",
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"id": "insight_15",
"text": "The PRFAQ structure forces customer obsession by requiring you to write actual customer quotes, not hypothetical ones. This prevents lazy PM thinking where you're the only customer.",
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"text": "Strategy communication matters as much as strategy substance. Teams can disagree with strategy if poorly communicated but embrace bad strategy if communicated well with conviction.",
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"text": "Early career credibility and network matter for long-term success. People you meet early become founders, angels, hires, and collaborators. Invest in meaningful tenure at formative companies.",
"context": "Jason still meeting people from Yammer days, still hiring from networks, receiving LinkedIn messages from former colleagues",
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"text": "Great leaders serve existing customers intensely, not hypothetical ones. This applies to hiring too—understand what real candidates care about, not what job description lists.",
"context": "Jason's pivot from poor outbound sales to understanding customer needs",
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"id": "insight_19",
"text": "Being in the details isn't micromanagement—it's a way for leaders to coach teams and set culture standards. CEOs running product reviews isn't delegation avoidance, it's a lever for cultural impact.",
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"text": "The reframing of 'trip designer' from 'concierge' wasn't just semantics—it represented a fundamentally simpler, more elegant product vision that solved the underlying problem of overwhelming scope.",
"context": "Jason's Luxury Retreats example of how reframing aligned teams on both reduced scope and improved experience",
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"id": "insight_21",
"text": "Product specifications, job descriptions, and launches should be iterative, not fixed. The best companies treat hiring like product—they mold roles based on people they meet, not pre-designed specs.",
"context": "Jason's critique of how job descriptions are posted once and never iterated versus how Airbnb Plus was built through iteration",
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"text": "When evaluating risk-taking for interviews, look for growth mindset and vocal self-criticism without harsh judgment. This reveals how candidates think about bets and problem-solving, not just their history.",
"context": "Jason's favorite interview question and what he evaluates in answers",
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"id": "insight_23",
"text": "The best leaders zoom out and adapt when needed, rather than applying a fixed playbook from past success. COVID, crypto winter, and market shifts require flexibility, not doubling down on past approaches.",
"context": "Jason on how Brian Chesky and Joe/Nikil adapted through crises",
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"id": "insight_24",
"text": "Intent and life philosophy matter more than micro-level optimization in career decisions. If you're intentional about what you want to learn, a year at the right place teaches more than five years at the wrong place.",
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"Revenue decline",
"Crisis management",
"Morale maintenance",
"Leadership under pressure",
"Travel/Hospitality"
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"Culture",
"Belonging mission",
"Pre-IPO",
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"Productivity software"
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"Four years",
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"Amazon AWS",
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"TaskRabbit",
"Square",
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"Alchemy",
"Lenny",
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"Nikil (Alchemy co-founder)",
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"id": "example_14",
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"confidence": "high",
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"Jeff Bezos",
"CEO",
"Detail orientation",
"Customer obsession",
"Question mark email",
"Leadership"
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"id": "example_15",
"explicit_text": "When we were going to launch Prime, order a bunch of Prime things and see what happens... really test things out, and write up a long feedback email on Saturday",
"inferred_identity": "Amazon Prime (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Amazon Prime",
"Product testing",
"Launch",
"Leadership detail work",
"Customer experience testing",
"E-commerce"
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"id": "example_16",
"explicit_text": "David Sachs would run the product reviews. It was the CEO of the company doing product reviews, not some kind of middle tier of a director of product",
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"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Yammer",
"David Sachs",
"Founder/CEO",
"Product review",
"Leadership leverage",
"Accountability"
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"id": "example_17",
"explicit_text": "Airbnb had bought a company, Luxury Retreats. There was a goal to integrate that business and that product... a very large team of wonderful people who helped you as concierges basically for your trip",
"inferred_identity": "Airbnb, Luxury Retreats (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Airbnb",
"Luxury Retreats",
"Acquisition",
"Integration",
"Concierge service",
"Team morale",
"Travel/Hospitality"
],
"lesson": "Shows complexity of integrating acquired companies and how reframing can solve organizational friction",
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{
"id": "example_18",
"explicit_text": "This chat product was growing in complexity... nobody could successfully shift the direction... it was just this... It was a mess... low morale because we were taking on too much scope",
"inferred_identity": "Airbnb Luxury Retreats chat feature (inferred)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Airbnb",
"Chat feature",
"Scope creep",
"Team morale",
"Integration complexity",
"Acquisition friction"
],
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"topic_id": "topic_6",
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{
"id": "example_19",
"explicit_text": "This was reimagined as trip designers, not concierges... their goal was to design your trip... a very elegant, simple chat experience so that you could have a efficient, fast, positive experience",
"inferred_identity": "Airbnb Luxury Retreats rebranding (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Airbnb",
"Luxury Retreats",
"Trip designer",
"Reframing",
"Product simplification",
"Scope reduction",
"Brand alignment"
],
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"topic_id": "topic_6",
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"id": "example_20",
"explicit_text": "We were growing, we're hiring... there are a lot of roles, especially being in Web3 that are not yet created... growth operations... we were going back and forth on should we hire for this role",
"inferred_identity": "Alchemy, Growth Operations role (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Alchemy",
"Growth operations",
"New role creation",
"Hiring",
"Web3",
"Role iteration"
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{
"id": "example_21",
"explicit_text": "I was trying to do outbound sales... didn't understand this... I didn't listen to what people cared about... I was just about features and here's what we can do for you",
"inferred_identity": "do.com sales effort (inferred)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"do.com",
"Sales",
"Founder learning",
"Outbound",
"Feature focus error",
"Customer understanding"
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{
"id": "example_22",
"explicit_text": "Maybe the CRO's growing revenue. Maybe the head of peoples worried about culture or scaling their talent organization",
"inferred_identity": "Sales lesson from do.com outbound (inferred)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Sales",
"CRO",
"Head of People",
"Motivation understanding",
"Pain points",
"Role-based priorities"
],
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"topic_id": "topic_7",
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{
"id": "example_23",
"explicit_text": "I moved to San Francisco without a job... I said, 'I'll never work for anybody else,' and then lo and behold, Yammer comes along, I'm super excited about it",
"inferred_identity": "Yammer (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Yammer",
"San Francisco move",
"Overconfidence",
"Joining hypergrowth",
"Enterprise social",
"First PM role"
],
"lesson": "Arrogance about not working for others was reversed by genuine excitement about Yammer's mission",
"topic_id": "topic_9",
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{
"id": "example_24",
"explicit_text": "I was working at my dining table, and I saw Ron Conway on the street... I was disheveled... I wanted to go pitch Ron Conway on this terrible idea for a startup",
"inferred_identity": "Dining table startup, Ron Conway (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Startup",
"San Francisco",
"Bootstrapped",
"Angel investor",
"Ron Conway",
"Pitch",
"Networking"
],
"lesson": "Shows willingness to take unrehearsed swings at opportunities, building serendipity into career",
"topic_id": "topic_9",
"line_start": 290,
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{
"id": "example_25",
"explicit_text": "When I was building that education company, I went and put flyers in people's cars in various high schools, and I was trying to get things started",
"inferred_identity": "Education company, flyer distribution (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Education",
"Test prep",
"Growth tactics",
"Scrappy",
"Direct marketing",
"Founder hustle",
"High school outreach"
],
"lesson": "Willingness to do unglamorous work (flyer distribution) regardless of founder status shows commitment",
"topic_id": "topic_9",
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{
"id": "example_26",
"explicit_text": "I would've thought about my structure in my career, and I was more like, 'This is going to be interesting. I'll figure it out. I believe in myself enough that I'll figure it out.'",
"inferred_identity": "Jason's career philosophy (inferred)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Career philosophy",
"Confidence",
"Risk-taking",
"Intuition over planning",
"Self-belief",
"Exploration mindset"
],
"lesson": "Belief in ability to figure things out trumps detailed career planning",
"topic_id": "topic_9",
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{
"id": "example_27",
"explicit_text": "I could have stayed [at Yammer]. My equity was finally worth something... but I was bored and I had been talking to a couple angel investors who were willing to put money into whatever the thing was going to be",
"inferred_identity": "Yammer equity, do.com founding (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Yammer",
"Equity upside",
"do.com",
"Angel funding",
"Founder move",
"Boredom as signal"
],
"lesson": "Willingness to leave money on the table for more interesting work",
"topic_id": "topic_9",
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{
"id": "example_28",
"explicit_text": "That was a really hard four years. Things like an M&A offer falling through the day before your wedding, or chewing glass and submitting to the Apple iStore... resubmitting because we wanted to fix a bug, and then actually now it crashes 90% of the time",
"inferred_identity": "do.com, Apple App Store (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"do.com",
"Startup hardship",
"M&A failure",
"App Store",
"Personal sacrifice",
"Product crisis",
"Stress",
"Mobile"
],
"lesson": "Startup journey includes catastrophic failures alongside personal hardship; these are part of building",
"topic_id": "topic_9",
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"line_end": 299
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{
"id": "example_29",
"explicit_text": "Getting lost in Croatia... getting lost to to your hotel in Australia... getting bitten by a dog in Thailand, which actually did happen to me",
"inferred_identity": "Jason's travel experiences (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Travel",
"Europe",
"Australia",
"Thailand",
"Adventure",
"Character building",
"Personal growth"
],
"lesson": "Travel discomforts are analogous to career risks and build character",
"topic_id": "topic_9",
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"line_end": 299
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{
"id": "example_30",
"explicit_text": "I've gotten to work on products that have been part of most people's everyday lives... Yammer, do.com, Airbnb... and I'm hopeful that we'll get to do that with Web3 and Alchemy as well",
"inferred_identity": "Yammer, do.com, Airbnb, Alchemy (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Yammer",
"do.com",
"Airbnb",
"Alchemy",
"Scale",
"Impact",
"Everyday products",
"Web3"
],
"lesson": "Jason's core motivation is building products that affect people's everyday lives",
"topic_id": "topic_13",
"line_start": 52,
"line_end": 53
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{
"id": "example_31",
"explicit_text": "Uniswap just made a big hire out of Meta. I saw that Gemini also did the same. We're seeing OpenSea hire a lot of talent along these lines too, even through the ups and downs that their business has seen",
"inferred_identity": "Uniswap, Gemini, OpenSea, Meta (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Uniswap",
"Gemini",
"OpenSea",
"Meta",
"Product hire",
"Web3 hiring",
"NFT marketplace",
"Crypto exchange",
"Talent attraction"
],
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"topic_id": "topic_1",
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{
"id": "example_32",
"explicit_text": "Brian caring about the full bleed image on the homepage... the entrance and we changed the scent that you feel when you walk in... coach host and learned about that",
"inferred_identity": "Airbnb, Brian Chesky (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Airbnb",
"Brian Chesky",
"Homepage design",
"Airbnb Plus",
"Detail orientation",
"Sensory experience",
"Host relationships"
],
"lesson": "Obsession with details (images, scents, entrance design) creates product differentiation and magic",
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{
"id": "example_33",
"explicit_text": "Brian... Jim... looking through hundreds of listings... he'd just picked the ones that he wanted to turn into conference rooms",
"inferred_identity": "Airbnb, Brian Chesky, Jim (inferred as co-founder) (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Airbnb",
"Brian Chesky",
"Jim (co-founder)",
"Office design",
"Listings",
"Brand experience",
"Company culture"
],
"lesson": "Leaders extend attention to detail beyond products to company environment and culture",
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"line_end": 203
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{
"id": "example_34",
"explicit_text": "Creative Selection by Ken Kocienda about the early days of the iPhone, Project Purple... Jobs brought in the prototypes for each of those reviews... typing on a tiny screen and those early keyboards and how to do auto complete, and Jobs was totally in those details",
"inferred_identity": "Apple, Steve Jobs, iPhone, Project Purple (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Apple",
"Steve Jobs",
"iPhone",
"Project Purple",
"Ken Kocienda",
"Prototypes",
"Product review",
"Keyboard",
"Auto-complete"
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"line_end": 206
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{
"id": "example_35",
"explicit_text": "Alchemy... I see an engineer hop in and fix something at 3:00 AM because they feel committed to the code base, and it's not a thousand-person engineering organization where my only job is to make the iOS app 2% more effective at engaging users",
"inferred_identity": "Alchemy (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Alchemy",
"Engineer commitment",
"Ownership culture",
"Codebase quality",
"Startup ethos",
"Intrinsic motivation",
"Small team"
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"lesson": "Responsibility-based culture where engineers feel ownership drives quality without external motivation",
"topic_id": "topic_15",
"line_start": 224,
"line_end": 224
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{
"id": "example_36",
"explicit_text": "The Hard Thing About Hard Things [book recommendation]... I think it teaches product managers to chew glass and care about outcomes the way that a CEO has to",
"inferred_identity": "The Hard Thing About Hard Things, Ben Horowitz (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Book",
"PM education",
"CEO mindset",
"Outcomes",
"Hard decisions",
"Leadership"
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"lesson": "Recommended reading for PMs to develop CEO-level accountability mindset",
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"line_end": 404
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{
"id": "example_37",
"explicit_text": "I would suggest Polygon, Salon, or MoonPay... I wanted to give some breath in the Web3 space that might be exciting to people",
"inferred_identity": "Polygon, Salon, MoonPay (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Polygon",
"Salon",
"MoonPay",
"Web3 companies",
"Developer platforms",
"Hiring opportunities",
"Crypto infrastructure"
],
"lesson": "Recommendations for PMs looking to join Web3 companies with growth potential",
"topic_id": "topic_18",
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"line_end": 416
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{
"id": "example_38",
"explicit_text": "The Ken Burns Vietnam War series. I'm really into documentaries and history, and it's a really kind of compelling version of history that I've never seen before.",
"inferred_identity": "Ken Burns' Vietnam War documentary (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Documentary",
"History",
"Vietnam War",
"Ken Burns",
"Cultural interest",
"Learning"
],
"lesson": "Jason's interest in history and documentaries reflects intellectual curiosity beyond product",
"topic_id": "topic_18",
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"line_end": 422
},
{
"id": "example_39",
"explicit_text": "What is a risk you regret not taking, why, and what did you learn about yourself? [favorite interview question]",
"inferred_identity": "Jason's interview question (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Interview question",
"Risk assessment",
"Growth mindset",
"Self-reflection",
"Hiring",
"Psychology"
],
"lesson": "Strong interview questions reveal growth mindset and how candidates approach bets and problem-solving",
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"line_end": 428
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{
"id": "example_40",
"explicit_text": "Broccoli. I just removed some from a pizza last night that I really didn't want to eat... There are no circumstances under which I'm excited about broccoli.",
"inferred_identity": "Jason's personal preference (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Personal",
"Food",
"Vegetables",
"Preferences",
"Pizza"
],
"lesson": "Light personal detail about Jason's dislike of broccoli",
"topic_id": "topic_18",
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"line_end": 446
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{
"id": "example_41",
"explicit_text": "I'm online @0xShah. That is my crypto pseudonymous handle and happy to engage with folks there... I also invest, and we also partner with a lot of products and teams at Alchemy",
"inferred_identity": "Jason Shah, Alchemy (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Twitter handle",
"Crypto",
"Web3",
"Angel investor",
"Alchemy partnerships",
"Community engagement"
],
"lesson": "Jason is active in Web3 community and open to partnerships",
"topic_id": "topic_18",
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"line_end": 458
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{
"id": "example_42",
"explicit_text": "My first company... it was an education company, and the problem was that low-income students didn't have access to the same resources to get into college as other students, and that guided everything... pricing model which was basically free for a long time... monetize on sponsorships from colleges",
"inferred_identity": "Education company, test prep startup (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Education",
"Test prep",
"Low-income students",
"College access",
"Social mission",
"Freemium model",
"Sponsorship revenue",
"Founder age 15"
],
"lesson": "Clear problem definition (equity in college prep) drove business model and product decisions",
"topic_id": "topic_12",
"line_start": 377,
"line_end": 377
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{
"id": "example_43",
"explicit_text": "People say Google is an engineering culture. People said Facebook is a product culture, Airbnb or Pinterest, sometimes a design culture... Amazon was a place where you couldn't divorce business and product",
"inferred_identity": "Google, Facebook, Airbnb, Pinterest, Amazon (explicit)",
"confidence": "high",
"tags": [
"Google",
"Facebook",
"Airbnb",
"Pinterest",
"Amazon",
"Culture comparison",
"Product culture",
"Engineering culture",
"Design culture"
],
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